Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/topic/2742/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Sun, 11 May 2008 06:09:59 GMT Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:11:57 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/topic/2742/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21266/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21266 Vestras wrote:
By Ocram's Razor, 90% of this forum is useless since it was never referenced on Screen.
Only if there is conflict, and even then, Ockham's razor will generally give you an idea of the more plausible position.
All transforming fighters are simply "Veritechs" except the Alpha and Beta, and I think one off the cuff reference to the "Valkyrie" on... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (CavScout) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21266 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:11:57 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21264/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21264 feeds@yuku.com (Vestras) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21264 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:09:52 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21253/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21253 Vestras wrote:
In this case, Close Air support means supporting ground forces as you say. Volunteers in the odd one out owing to the nessesity of a VTOL craft and the smaller size to fit int he bay being why a Logan was used in that support role. All with the exception of False Start, where they are acting as interceptors, all their other apperanes thus far into my reviewing the series have been in actions supporting the 15th or... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (CavScout) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21253 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:23:44 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21252/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21252
The Slyph would be too... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Vestras) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21252 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:30:06 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21249/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21249 Vestras wrote:
The Logans are almost always in a close air support role (See The Trap, Volunteers, etc), although they do crop up in more aggressive roles at times (see False Start) they are quite rare.


When you use "close air support" what role, specifically, are you referring to? While CAS has a 'technical' definition, it almost universally used to describe air support in support of... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (CavScout) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21249 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:26:49 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21244/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21244
IIRC, the OSM describes the Logan as being designed to board enemy vessels. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rtsurfer) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21244 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:21:35 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21239/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21239
Just for a sense of scale, the Logan seems like too much cockpit in proportion... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Vestras) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21239 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:15:03 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21225/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21225 feeds@yuku.com (ShadowLogan) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21225 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:12:30 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21223/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21223
I agree that the ASC forces, at full strength may very well have given the Invid a good fight, the way the Invid initially... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Brian3D) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21223 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:01:32 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21221/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21221
At a side note, I think the ASC forces, at full strength, might have been a much better match for the Invid. A smaller mecha like the Logan wouldn't need to grapple with a Shocktrooper, and... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Vestras) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21221 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:16:22 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21219/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21219
Two things I'd point out is that one, as some have said, Southern Cross never did make it's intended 36 episodes, so alot of what was... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Brian3D) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21219 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:29:55 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21218/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21218
it's entirely plausible that just off screen, a Slyphid pilot had just destroyed three transports almost single handedly, in battloid mode no less, and we never heard of him/her/it cause he wasn't a main character heh. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Vestras) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21218 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:23:08 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21216/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21216 Basara 549 wrote:
CavScout wrote:

The Specter/Sylphid didn't seem any more vulnerable to enemy fire than any other combat craft in the shows, IMO.

Yeah - anything that wasn't piloted by the 6 main characters of the 15th, Marie, or Dennis, tended to blow up almost immediately.... feeds@yuku.com (CavScout) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21216 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:04:20 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21215/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21215 CavScout wrote:
The Specter/Sylphid didn't seem any more vulnerable to enemy fire than any other combat craft in the shows, IMO.
Yeah - anything that wasn't piloted by the 6 main characters of the 15th, Marie, or Dennis, tended to blow up almost immediately.... image
]]> feeds@yuku.com (Basara 549) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21215 Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:15:04 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21211/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21211 feeds@yuku.com (CavScout) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21211 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:04:32 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21209/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21209
The Sylphide could have been designed as a Veritech, got too expensive during development, and the politicians decided that "the Logan is good enough for our needs (and cheaper from already being developed)". So the basic exterior airframe as pretty much unchanged, and a non-transforming version put into production (based on the the non-transforming flight... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Basara 549) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21209 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:56:45 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21206/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21206
In all likely hood there was not an organization, but a general description of an enemy. Likely more than one faction exists, all with differing capabilities and technologies.

There is also this mysterious "Disciples of Zor" reference toward... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ShadowLogan) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21206 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:00:23 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21203/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21203 feeds@yuku.com (Vestras) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21203 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:21:20 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21202/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21202
Why did the craft stay in fighter mode (supposing they could even transform) only to be destroyed on the ground? Why not transform to a more suitable mode, if one was unable to take off in fighter mode?
I'd point out that some of those units where not even manned that where destroyed on the ground. I can recall one pilot being killed in the process of boarding. It seems more like they where cought with their pants down. Why the fighters where not... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ShadowLogan) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21202 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:46:38 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21199/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html#reply-21199 Vestras wrote:
Still, the best selling point that the Slyphid was meant to be variable is that is was referred to as a veritech multiple times in dialogue in Robotech, which gives a very strong case for it being plausable if not very likely to be true.

Other non-transformable vehicles are called Veritechs as well (see the force used by Carpenter's ship).

As a side note, is there anything in... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (CavScout) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21199 Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:32:46 GMT <![CDATA[ Wing Design on the Specter/Sylphid: AE or un-noticed feature until now? ]]> http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/topic/2742/t/Wing-Design---Specter-Sylphid-AE---noticed-feature---.html www.RobotechResearch.com concerning the Specter/Sylphid I noticed something differrent between several shots concerning the outboard wings.

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