http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/topic/2845/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:13:29 GMT Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:13 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/topic/2845/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21446/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21446 Basara 549 wrote:

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Strange how "online sources" do nothing to say otherwise. If you actually read your supposed source, you'd realize that. In fact, several of the survival points it gives, were NOT in play in Rick's shootdown. He was unconscious, NOT in a protective thermal suit, HALF HIS HEAD EXPOSED AND IN THE WATER, and the fact that anyone who has watched Discovery channel in the last 5 years KNOWS what the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (CavScout) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21446 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:26:32 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21444/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21444 Basara 549 wrote:

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Strange how "online sources" do nothing to say otherwise. If you actually read your supposed source, you'd realize that. In fact, several of the survival points it gives, were NOT in play in Rick's shootdown. He was unconscious, NOT in a protective thermal suit, HALF HIS HEAD EXPOSED AND IN THE WATER, and the fact that anyone who has watched Discovery channel in the last 5 years KNOWS what the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Alpha 11) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21444 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:01:29 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21442/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21442 feeds@yuku.com (Basara 549) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21442 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:24:23 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21438/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21438 Basara 549 wrote:

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Part of the problem is a "for want of a nail" scenario that played out with Yune's revisions.

By moving the date back to February, it made an event that occurred to a character in-series impossible to occur the way it was shown (rick surviving being shot down in Episode 16).

Rather than admit the error (which would not have been a problem with the Macross timeline, in... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (CavScout) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21438 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:54:35 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21435/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21435
By moving the date back to February, it made an event that occurred to a character in-series impossible to occur the way it was shown (rick surviving being shot down in Episode 16).

Rather than admit the error (which would not have been a problem with the Macross timeline, in that the time period had bee shortend to 7 months from just under 13, in the corresponding... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Basara 549) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21435 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:17:07 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21433/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21433 rtsurfer wrote:

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But back to my point, should we have a Jan launch date because Tommy brought it over from Macross (many years later), or a July one which better fits the timeline (IIRC alphaVT and myself came up with May as the best month), has real life/world support like the orbital data and hints of seasonal weather, not to mention is the date Macek either intended at the time of the series creation or almost immediately... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (CavScout) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21433 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:19:19 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21432/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21432 feeds@yuku.com (Basara 549) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21432 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:59:41 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21431/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21431 While I doubt they consulted astronomical charts at the time there are a number of indications throughout the series that while some things were haphazardly done others actually did... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rtsurfer) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21431 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:18:13 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21430/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21430 feeds@yuku.com (CavScout) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21430 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:11:15 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21429/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21429
The original post on departure dates I made, years ago, I believe was lost in the great ezBoard hack. But, I can sum it up easily.

Just on a lark, the last time the issue of launch date came up (right after the original HG retcon) I used NASA's own online orbital tracking software (mostly used for satellites, probes, NEO and the planets) to plot the planetary orbits over the years 2009-2010.

Assuming that the misfold was a... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Basara 549) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21429 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:54:10 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21426/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21426 Basara 549 wrote:

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Similarly, the February 2009 date for the SDF-1 launch, that HG has become so enamoured of these last few years, was ALSO a DYRL retcon.

Funny you should mention that. It entirely absurd from Robotech's point of view to have the February launch date since Macross Island is in the South Pacific. There may be things I completely disagree with Macek about, but it ain't this... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Brooklyn Red Leg) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21426 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:40:36 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21425/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21425 Basara 549 wrote:

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First of all, it was not my theory - I, in fact, pointed out the fundamental flaws in it.

Eh, so I'm getting old an my memory's shot. :-)

So, essentially, there's no way to reconcile the known population with regards to colonization?

Even without any incorporation of DYRL-related material, we're left with there being even feeds@yuku.com (Paploo) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21425 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:59:00 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21424/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21424
First of all, it was not my theory - I, in fact, pointed out the fundamental flaws in it. The cloning BS (and the low number of survivors) was actually part of Macross OSM from DYRL until about the time of Macross Plus/Macross 7, when it became obvious that there were serious flaws with it (and tat it could only apply to DYRL & Macross II, if you treat them as one universe). The... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Basara 549) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21424 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:31:27 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21420/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21420 lord goober2 wrote:

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I believe it's stated SOMEWHERE that the majority of the early colonization fleets were comprised of cloned humans using Zentraedi technology. I'll be damned if I can remember where I saw that.

I think Basara (from here) floated that theory a few years back. I don't know whether it was based off of any "official" sources though. But even then, that raises feeds@yuku.com (Paploo) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21420 Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:00:55 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21419/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21419
So it looks like this element may have floated other. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jefffar) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21419 Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:30:40 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/reply/21418/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html#reply-21418 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (lord goober2) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/sreply/21418 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:37:55 GMT http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/topic/2845/t/Macross-Earth-Population.html finally getting around to watching SDF: Macross (sad, no?). I have some... musings / wonderings concerning the status of the human population, post orbital bombardment.

From the narration in the animation, we know that: Macross City, the UN / Military aboard the SDF-01, and a "handful" of people survived the assault. The Macross compendium gives an estimate of 700,000 to a million people (but doesn't provide sources,... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Paploo) http://rdfhqcommunicationscenter.yuku.com/topic/2845 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:13:29 GMT