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ShadowLogan	ASC & REF Body Armor Features	Lead	[-]
1st Lieutenant Posts: 239 (January 23, 2008 06:39 AM) 1st Lieutenant Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Tags : None Two Parter here Part 1: ASC Body Armor Shields Various lineart presentations (and some commercial bumps) that appear concerning the body armor in use during TRM saga show the bodyarmor sporting shields. This is true in the old coloring books, the RPG, and appear on the DVD extras. Yet the actual number of occurances we see them in the show is pretty low. IIRC the only instances that come to mind we see them are: -Gaurding the Govt. HQ -Dante and VHT squad the 15th releives in Monument City (the Officer of the other VHT unit had it for sure) -When Space Forces are scrambling on the ground to assist Carpenter -Could be wrong, but wasn't Nova carrying a shield on the hostage exchange at the end while riding in a VHT? The only reasons I can think of for a lack of display is: A. The Shields are more for cerimonial use than practical use for most branches. That would seem to match up with the screen use. B. The mass of the shield is better utilized by the solider carrying other items. C. The shields offer no practical protection, but where intended as part of a modular system much like the 1st Series RPG has the Cyclone Forearm/FrontHub weapons as modular. The Shields in this case work as the Fronthub shield on the Cyclone to which a weapon's pod could be attached, but those units where still in development. So why do you think the Southern Cross commercial bumps and lineart show these shields in use, but the animation is usally silent on the topic? Part II: REF & ASC Body Armor In a few instances in TRM and NG we see characters do super leaps into mecha while wearing their body armor. Scott did it once when getting into Lunk's restored Alpha for the first time when it was on the second floor of a barn. Dana did it into and out of the VHT, but this wasn't as high up as the Alpha so it might be gynmastics. We know that the body armor Scott was wearing was also part of the Cyclone System. So could his armor actually be some type of powered exo-skeleton? Given the bulkier look of ASC armor, and Dana's feats of gymnastics these older suits might also have that capacity.
Protoculture		#1	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 315 (March 18, 2008 06:49 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	The only reasons I can think of for a lack of display is: A. The Shields are more for cerimonial use than practical use for most branches. That would seem to match up with the screen use. That's also how I see it. But then again, we do see Angie lugging around his shield during routine patrol (the scene where he met up with the other ATAC unit). It means, either the troopers find 'em cumbersome to carry their shields around, & hardly useable during mecha assault. Although, for armed troopers, I see much good can be put to use of the shield especially to parry laser based small arms. So why do you think the Southern Cross commercial bumps and lineart show these shields in use, but the animation is usally silent on the topic? Perhaps it didn't served the storyline, a mere eye candy. In case of Nova Satori (or Lana Isavia), she's showned in various linearts & promo arts fully encased in GMP armor, but to my knowledge, she wears her amor only twice in the entire Masters arc.
Protoculture		#2	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 316 (March 18, 2008 06:54 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	We know that the body armor Scott was wearing was also part of the Cyclone System. So could his armor actually be some type of powered exo-skeleton? Given the bulkier look of ASC armor, and Dana's feats of gymnastics these older suits might also have that capacity. I chalked that up to anime physics. But the super agility of the both CVR armors & SCA armors only reserved to main characters like Dana & Scott, even that are rare. While I agrees that later CVR-3 armors may've internal electronics to make the suit to work well with Cyclone integration system, I believed the ASC armors are just that, modular armor & served as EVA suit for TSC / TASC / CDAC / TAF.
Protoculture		#3	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 324 (March 18, 2008 08:30 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Since we still talked about ASC & REF armours, its just that since both SCA & REF arnours are distinctly different with CVR-3 probably entered mass production with EF in 2030 & widely used by 2031 prior or post Invid Invasion as prescribed in RT: Invasion comics where the 15th ATACs well decked in CVR-3 armors as opposed to ATAC armors. So, there's a pre production SCD:SC armors that perhaps better served as REF armor pre CVR-3 usage in early 2020s & later replaced by CVR-3 armors. Here it is: Pre-Production SCA Armor This allows a more streamlined & similar set of armors in 2020s between SC & EF that point to a common origin. Last Edited By: Protoculture March 18, 2008 08:55 PM. Edited 4 times.
Protoculture		#4	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 325 (March 18, 2008 09:04 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Actually, if we looked closely at the female armor from the pre-production art, it slightly resembled CVR-3F (female variant) as featured here: CVR-3F Armor. Commonality in terms of mecha (for EF = Super Logans & AA Hovertank) & armors between REF & SCA (both elements of UEF) in the 2020s period should be common until UEEF starts to divert to its off-world own mecha & armor production lines in 2030 onwards.
CavScout		#5	[-]
Captain Posts: 1258 (March 19, 2008 06:15 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I'd go with more ceremonial than practical. I could see them being more useful in a typical riot control/civil disturbance role. CavScout "The role of the Cavalry is to add colour, dash and daring, to what would otherwise be a mindless shitfight amongst grunts."-Australian Army saying This is my "mod-voice". If I post in red, it usually means knock whatever it is off!
Protoculture		#6	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 341 (April 1, 2008 09:03 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	CavScout wrote: I'd go with more ceremonial than practical. I could see them being more useful in a typical riot control/civil disturbance role. You're right. The shield would be useful in protecting individual CDU riot control troopers, especially in formation from anti UEG rioters.

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