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ShadowLogan	Pegasus Robot Horse & Chariot Pre-Production Variants	Lead	[-]
1st Lieutenant Posts: 248 (February 29, 2008 12:20 PM) 1st Lieutenant Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Tags : None This concerns the pre-production drawings for the Pegasus mecha found on the Robotech Extra DVDs. I will refer to the image by the # / # that appears in the upper right corner. It would appear that the mecha could have more variations than the RPG portrayed (which was more widely available than the single model to appear in the Novels). What is your individual take(s) on the various pictures? Are any of them a functionally better concept than the typical presentation found in the RPG and novels (I'd assume the Sentinels Comics also, but I do not have them)? What do you think HG should do with these designs from the Sentinels? Should HG allow Palladium to use these designs in a future supplement? Alternate Chariot Designs: 41/46 looks like the Pegasus Mecha from the RPG with another Chariot design. In comparison to the chariot shown in the RPG: -looks to be a medium sized "version" as it is bigger than the unit seen in the RPG, but not as big as 42/46. -size of the tires makes me wonder what the land-vehicle configuration looks like, or who/what was intended to ride it. Maybe it is a 4wheel ATV perhaps instead of cycle? 42/46 looks like the Pegasus Mecha from the RPG pulling a bigger chariot than 41/46. The interesting thing someone pointed out to me on first viewing the mecha, was that they think the Chariot might have a Robot Mode. This is because of the (typical RT) Mecha Face that appears "hidden" in the Chariot mode located just above the connecting spars (below the "beak" of the chariot and behind the left wing in the drawing). I'm not sure what the vehicle mode 42/46 would use, maybe some type of hover vehicle, given the disproportionate design of the "wheels" to the "body". That or the tires alter their volume depending on the mode. Alternate Flyer Designs: 44/46 appears to be a new Pegasus design. Note that the "drone" for the mecha (in the RPG and Novels) appears to now be a manned flier (view of the controls & seat). When detached it seems to take a bigger portion of the internal systems with it than the Drone, unlike the 45/46 version it may not be as adversely affected. 45/46 has a similar approach as the 44/46 "drone", possibly manned (side profile view of the flier). The cockpit appears to be enclosed. This might mean this model Pegasus is bigger than the other models to allow the pilot to sit inside of it. Not sure if the Robot would be able to function with the detached flier given the size of the cavity.
Protoculture		#1	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 318 (March 18, 2008 07:23 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	41/46 looks like the Pegasus Mecha from the RPG with another Chariot design. In comparison to the chariot shown in the RPG: -looks to be a medium sized "version" as it is bigger than the unit seen in the RPG, but not as big as 42/46. -size of the tires makes me wonder what the land-vehicle configuration looks like, or who/what was intended to ride it. Maybe it is a 4wheel ATV perhaps instead of cycle? The premise of the abovesaid design is that it is a ceremonial mecha for Southern Cross Armies in SDC:SC. Given its being given new lease as Sentinel mecha, I suggest, the robo armed-chariot should be retconned to be entirely Praxian design. From the art, it seems that the chariot is definitely dependent on the robotic steed, & manned by one personnel which served perhaps like Cyclone infantries. I don't see any transformation capability from the art itself, so the medium chariot served well being standalone unit attached to robosteed, characterising Praxian's neo-feudal hi-tech & culture (atleast they won't be that primitive compared to the original Sentinel premise). As for the Palladium version Praxian Chariot , I'd suggest would be the UEEF attempts to simulate the Cyclone technology to the existing Praxian War Chariot designs, making 'em light & with better mobility to the eraly medium (41/46) & heavy Praxian Chariots (42/46). The RPG design are perhaps designed by Robotech Research Group at the behest of the Praxians who're perhaps interested with the transformability quality fielded by UEEF VR Cyclone Rider series & want to apply that to their Chariot units.
Protoculture		#2	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 319 (March 18, 2008 07:29 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Are any of them a functionally better concept than the typical presentation found in the RPG and novels (I'd assume the Sentinels Comics also, but I do not have them)? They're acceptable IF the Armed Medium & Heavy Chariot plus the Robosteed are of Praxian design & origin. It wouldn't worked IF they were designed by UEEF, given the superflous & ridiculous nature of such armed chariot in the age of transforming Veritechs that humanity fielded. Of course, the RPG Chariot which is transformable should be UEEF designed, at the request of the Praxians that intended to add Robotechnology equipped mecha that served similar purpose to their armed chariots & perhaps to supplement their armed-chariots (whose production may've halted, no thanks to Invid occupation of their homeworld).
Protoculture		#3	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 320 (March 18, 2008 07:42 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	44/46 appears to be a new Pegasus design. Note that the "drone" for the mecha (in the RPG and Novels) appears to now be a manned flier (view of the controls & seat). When detached it seems to take a bigger portion of the internal systems with it than the Drone, unlike the 45/46 version it may not be as adversely affected. .... 45/46 has a similar approach as the 44/46 "drone", possibly manned (side profile view of the flier). The cockpit appears to be enclosed. This might mean this model Pegasus is bigger than the other models to allow the pilot to sit inside of it. Not sure if the Robot would be able to function with the detached flier given the size of the cavity. Well, the designs (45/46 & 44/46) officially put to atleast THREE PEGASUS VARIANTS which included RPG's RAT-1 Pegasus Recon Unit . I'd say both 3 designs are definitely Praxian origin. Let us keep transformability elements of Robotechnology to human faction (UEF), while the robosteed & its unmanned drone (RPG) & the manned modules are Praxian technology.
Protoculture		#4	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 321 (March 18, 2008 07:46 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	What do you think HG should do with these designs from the Sentinels? Should HG allow Palladium to use these designs in a future supplement? They should reused the designs in the Palladium RPG for the updated & expanded Sentinels supplements. Of course, the 3 Pegasus variants & medium / heavy armed chariot must be of Praxian native technology, while the transformable chariot is UEEF designed, but strictly & exclusively to supplement the Praxians mech inventory, nothing more & nothing less.
ShadowLogan		#5	[-]
1st Lieutenant Posts: 259 (March 19, 2008 02:16 PM) 1st Lieutenant Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	From the art, it seems that the chariot is definitely dependent on the robotic steed, & manned by one personnel which served perhaps like Cyclone infantries. I don't see any transformation capability from the art itself, so the medium chariot served well being standalone unit attached to robosteed, characterising Praxian's neo-feudal hi-tech & culture (atleast they won't be that primitive compared to the original Sentinel premise). The Medium Chariot in 41/46 though shares some similarities in design to the RPG's "light" chariot in a few areas that makes me think it could be a heavier version of the RPG chariot. Using oversized motorcycle tires in the design to handle the extra weight and/or add stability instead of going with a 4 wheel design. I think it's likely though the RPG design came first, followed up by the 41/46 design. I see nothing wrong with all the "Chariots" designed for Praxian use by the REF. Or limiting VT technology to just Terrans. Perhaps the 42/46 Chariot was to give them a full Veritech to use. Of the 3 chariots this is the only one I think might lack a "vehicle" mode. And as I said someone else pointed out they thought it might transform to a robot. If the Robot possibility is just an optical illusion, then it might be a Praxian original as it appears so different from the other two designs.
Protoculture		#6	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 342 (April 1, 2008 09:11 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	ShadowLogan wrote: I think it's likely though the RPG design came first, followed up by the 41/46 design. I see nothing wrong with all the "Chariots" designed for Praxian use by the REF. .... Perhaps the 42/46 Chariot was to give them a full Veritech to use. Of the 3 chariots this is the only one I think might lack a "vehicle" mode. And as I said someone else pointed out they thought it might transform to a robot. If the Robot possibility is just an optical illusion, then it might be a Praxian original as it appears so different from the other two designs. Well, I think we've just to disagree on the matter of RPG-REF ChariotBike. I'm still of the opinion that EF Robotech Research Group designed ChariotBike based from existing Praxian Heavy & Medium Battle Chariot, experimenting VR-Cyclone Rider variable robotechnology adapted to Praxian needs. In case of Pegasus robosteeds, that should definitely be Praxians. Robotic horses for human forces are to far-fetched, methinks.

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