On again, off again: The Condor Veritech(?)

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harkavyr		#21	[-]
Sergeant Posts: 67 (March 14, 2008 10:17 AM) Corporal Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Ah, that's new. I might actually have photocopies of those pages from Rob. I'll look into it.
Protoculture		#22	[-]
Lt. Commander Posts: 331 (March 18, 2008 09:57 PM) Lt. Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	So what's the status again on Condor's transformability? Heard the Palladium guys gonna stick with Condor Battloid originated from failed 'VF program', & they referred with HG regarding Condor non-trasformable status. Well, guess I've to entertain the Super Condor as the alternative dual mode VF (in tradition of Logan).
Tiree		#23	[-]
RDF Recruit Posts: 4 (April 3, 2008 09:21 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I have been looking over the RPG information concerning the Condor. The one printed is definitely a Battloid, but they did leave enough room there to possibly toss in a Transformable (limited production run) version of one. It may have less armor, and not fly very fast compared to the Beta. But they don't exactly explain why it was a failure. Maybe it was supposed to be a Booster to the Alpha and they could not get it worked out right (the nose doesn't flip down?). There are other options - And I can definitely see Tommy Yune going back in 6 months saying, yeah it transforms. Then Palladium is holding the bag again, with fans yelling they did it wrong!
Jefffar		#24	[-]
1st Lieutenant Posts: 221 (April 3, 2008 09:39 AM) 2nd Lieutenant Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Well it does describe the origional attempt at a variable model running into problems with cost overruns before they could make it a working model. The Beta just got totally shelved by the same problems - until another decade or so of technological advance made it posible.
CavScout		#25	[-]
Captain Posts: 1267 (April 3, 2008 08:27 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I never got the hub-bub over the Condor. The anime doesn't show it transform and you can't even find art that shows it (as far as I know) other than fan stuff. CavScout "The role of the Cavalry is to add colour, dash and daring, to what would otherwise be a mindless shitfight amongst grunts."-Australian Army saying This is my "mod-voice". If I post in red, it usually means knock whatever it is off!
Brooklyn Red Leg		#26	[-]
Commander Posts: 720 (April 28, 2008 03:08 PM) Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Jefffar wrote: Well it does describe the origional attempt at a variable model running into problems with cost overruns before they could make it a working model. Thats just bullshit Tommy pulled out of his ass to cover it. He's so full of shit it isn't even funny. The Condor has parts commonality with the Alpha (you can tell that by looking at the damned thing), which would have reduced its procurement cost. Thats the legacy of the 3 main fighters of the Mospeada series: Condor, Legioss and Vulture (Wolfe's fighter, as it has the same nosecone as the Alpha, and likely other parts too). Furthermore, how can the VF-X-5 Condor begin testing in 2022 when the VF-X-6 Genia began testing in 2015? Let Harmony Gold and its licensees know that you want Robotech Masters Merchandise! Sign the petition and help us! Masters War Merchandise Petition
ColWolfe		#27	[-]
Private Posts: 3 (April 28, 2008 03:29 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	well, Tommy further cover his ass with the Pasrts cominality issue, via the fact he had Palladium make the Condor 40ft tall.... whast truely funny is, he made the "silverback" transform, but not the Condor... even thou the Silverback IIRc is never shown in its transformed stage in the comics. Cavscout is a Fag, he Molests Children, Love the big cock. I hope he Dies in a Fire.
CavScout		#28	[-]
Captain Posts: 1270 (April 28, 2008 08:25 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	The Condor wasn't shown to transform in the anime, nor was it hinted at that it did. I am also unaware of a OSM art showing different modes. Getting bent over something never shown, hinted (or the like) to transform seems somewhat disingenuous. Claiming he made something up while your own position is as well smacks of hypocrisy. YMMV. CavScout "The role of the Cavalry is to add colour, dash and daring, to what would otherwise be a mindless shitfight amongst grunts."-Australian Army saying This is my "mod-voice". If I post in red, it usually means knock whatever it is off!
Brooklyn Red Leg		#29	[-]
Commander Posts: 721 (April 28, 2008 10:53 PM) Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	CavScout wrote: The Condor wasn't shown to transform in the anime, nor was it hinted at that it did. I am also unaware of a OSM art showing different modes. Getting bent over something never shown, hinted (or the like) to transform seems somewhat disingenuous. Claiming he made something up while your own position is as well smacks of hypocrisy. Blah, blah,. Same shit, different day. Give me a fucking break Cav. First off, we know it transforms because the goddamn liner notes says it does. It also has parts on it that don't belong on a nontransforming platform namely wings folded down the back just like those on the Alpha, forearm engines and chest engine intakes almost exactly like those on the Alpha. Furthermore, its immediate 'cousin' the 'Condor II' (or whatever its called) clearly transforms from the lineart. Its the same basic frame, so why the fuck wouldn't it transform? Don't give me any of your bullshit about hypocrisy. Let Harmony Gold and its licensees know that you want Robotech Masters Merchandise! Sign the petition and help us! Masters War Merchandise Petition
CavScout		#30	[-]
Captain Posts: 1272 (April 29, 2008 05:44 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Blah, blah,. Same shit, different day. Give me a fucking break Cav. Let's see if you have any actual rebuttals. First off, we know it transforms because the goddamn liner notes says it does. Completely irrelevant to whether it "transforms" in the series. The "liner notes" also tell me Scott's name is not Scott, and has about as much weight in that later as it does in the former. It also has parts on it that don't belong on a nontransforming platform namely wings folded down the back just like those on the Alpha, forearm engines and chest engine intakes almost exactly like those on the Alpha. Speculation on your part. You see what you want to see; just like the Sylphide, you "see" what you need to support your own interpretation. You've approached the situation thinking the craft transforms and went looking for "visuals" to support that vision. Furthermore, its immediate 'cousin' the 'Condor II' (or whatever its called) clearly transforms from the lineart. Was it in the anime? Its the same basic frame, so why the fuck wouldn't it transform? Because it didn't… Don't give me any of your bullshit about hypocrisy. The hypocrisy is not whether it transforms or not, it is your abject condemnation of those who don't support your interpretation and the accusations that they've somehow ignored the anime. You claim proof of transformation when you have none. Saying you prefer to think the Condor transforms is vastly different that claiming anyone who doesn't is an abomination and is ignoring the anime itself. CavScout "The role of the Cavalry is to add colour, dash and daring, to what would otherwise be a mindless shitfight amongst grunts."-Australian Army saying This is my "mod-voice". If I post in red, it usually means knock whatever it is off!
ColWolfe		#31	[-]
Private Posts: 5 (April 29, 2008 06:28 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	@ one time Tommy agreed with the Idea that the Condor Transformed thou... aprently even having characters in his comics say they are taking the Condor in to a "Guardian" mode. I thought a happy medium was to have it be a 2 mode vehical. it basically shifts ite legs and arms to give it a smaller profile, but then i'm told that not enough of a Tranformation to count as "Transformable"... Tommy's "Canon" comic lines have it with a unseen Guardian mode... the RPG says it did Transform, but they halted it... in SSL tommy says it has Elements of Transformability.... i'm looking for things to make the RPg more interesting. Cavscout is a Fag, he Molests Children, Love the big cock. I hope he Dies in a Fire.
CavScout		#32	[-]
Captain Posts: 1275 (April 29, 2008 10:34 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	@ one time Tommy agreed with the Idea that the Condor Transformed thou... aprently even having characters in his comics say they are taking the Condor in to a "Guardian" mode. So, when Tommy is agreeing with you "he's cool" and when he's not "he's a loser"? Is that how we should understand it? Or is it when Tommy's "canon" conforms to your view it is canonical and when it does not mesh with your own view he is a lunatic? I thought a happy medium was to have it be a 2 mode vehical. it basically shifts ite legs and arms to give it a smaller profile, but then i'm told that not enough of a Tranformation to count as "Transformable"... Tommy's "Canon" comic lines have it with a unseen Guardian mode... the RPG says it did Transform, but they halted it... in SSL tommy says it has Elements of Transformability.... i'm looking for things to make the RPg more interesting. There is a difference between saying one would like to see it transformable and proclaiming the anime proves it to be so. I have no problem with anyone saying they're going to make the Condor transformable in their game, or even a fan who thinks it should be transformable in the RT universe. I do have a problem with arrogance that their view on the matter is the only correct view. RSCF's problem is not that he wishes to believe the Condor is transformable, it's the manner in which he goes about propagating the idea. CavScout "The role of the Cavalry is to add colour, dash and daring, to what would otherwise be a mindless shitfight amongst grunts."-Australian Army saying This is my "mod-voice". If I post in red, it usually means knock whatever it is off!

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