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me3 |
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It already is falling apart. It is amusing to see the desperation...
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nesonjacc |
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And the evidence of it keep coming....
While scouting through the Amazon.com www.amazon.com/Robotech-S...B000KWZ1UM For shadow chronicles i saw this... Quote: (release date...February 6, 2007)... Soo Good sales a???..... Um Amazon really doesnt seem to like the SHADOW.......hat |
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Brian3D |
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This sums it up best for me!
On amazon in the link to shadow crap is this little bit "81 used & new available from $13.26" Need I say more? "Well that is the battle fortress, but what have they done to it?"
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harkavyr |
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What's the significance of pointing out the sales rank of a DVD that came out several months ago? Or the fact that there are "new and used" purchasing options for it? Actually, out of those 29 "used" entries you'll see that more than half of them indicate that they are unused, factory fresh items.
Whether you liked the movie or not, it was released, and it made enough money for the producer and the distributor that they're making a sequel. You all seem to be trying to indicate that this product was a commercial failure rather than a success. Really, what is the point of all of this? (I really should know better than to post and ask about this, but I am genuinely curious.) |
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charmquark2 |
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Quote: According to who? To the same people who said there was going to be a new Robotech series in 2004 and released a movie in 2007? |
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nesonjacc |
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Quote: Numbers please. Hard evidence. As i recall this is being said(ONCE) by a man who is well known for untrue statements. And is endlessly quoted(dogmaticaly believed) by the folowers. Also as i recall it.. The same man said it will be a series pilot...( and there is a 26 epizode scenario..) Quote: The significance is rather simple. Tha sales count is the hottest during the first HYPE months(weeks with TSC).. After this period they slowly drop(or maintain if it is a good product). |
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harkavyr |
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Ugh, I knew this was pointless. If you're not going to believe anything that official sources like Harmony Gold and Funimation have said publicly about the performance of the DVD and an upcoming sequel then there's nothing I'm going to say that you'll listen to. Your mind is obviously made up. Forget I said anything.
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nesonjacc |
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And that is when the supporters chicken out......
Here is some credibility evidence. That new artbook...(schedueled for release on june 15.2007-or rather a week ago... and definetly NOT DELAYED... just Quote: and 10 days later... Quote: So a book is shipping out for 10 whole days... and yet it has gotten nowhere???? And the best is... Blame the retailers... Quote: Pathetic indeed. This looks like someone who is trustworthy??? |
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Khyron Prime |
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Quote: I'm open to suggestion, it's just that your arguements are far from convincing. We live in an age where information is very easy to find and much of the entertainment industry's related data is made public, so merely accepting Harmony Gold's word as absolute fact is a pinnacle of stupidity and short-sightedness. Everyone knows that taking information from an official source is always going to result in at least a mildly-biased projection; given the tools that we have around us, it should be no problem to reference multiple sources and then come to a "mean conclusion" with regards to the success and popularity of The Shadow Chronicles. You're shooting-down a man for demanding from you (as a self-invoked participant in this debate) sources which would confirm that your opinion that The Shadow Chronicles is a successful venture, and that's just plain wrong. I'm pretty sure that, if you could dig-up information from a reputable and third-party source which asserts the same bravado-laden stylings as Harmony Gold, the majority of us would have nowhere to run, the facts being as they are, and at least admit that, despite our personal dislikes, The Shadow Chronicles reached some level of popularity. The problem is: Whenever this challenge is made, the The Shadow Chronicles-supporter usually either foolishly chooses to reference Harmony Gold-provided information (or even simple phrases in place of hard, confirmable data) or walks away, denouncing the people who don't believe Harmony Gold 100% all day, every day. The question really has to be raised if it's you who has already made-up your mind. If you're so right, find something which surpasses or brings-into-question the worth of the sources nesonjacc has already provided. If you find that there's no hard data out there to confirm your opinion of The Shadow Chronicles success, well, then at least be a man and admit you were wrong. Yours in the protoculture, Khyron_Prime Praise Haydon! ---------------
The storm of Robotechnology burns forever in the heart of those who follow the path of Zor to the end of the circle. --------------- |
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harkavyr |
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Quote:Nope. Not going to look for data, and not that going to admit that I'm wrong, or even that I'm right. Those things aren't as important to me as they are to you, and in the end, it doesn't matter anyway. I will admit, however, that I'm stupid for even participating in this thread. And with that, I am done. |
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nesonjacc |
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Quote: Well If you insist ( |
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Khyron Prime |
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Quote: Quoted to exemplify the stupidity of many people who support The Shadow Chronicles and Harmony Gold as it exists today. Seriously, folks. This isn't directed at Mr. Harkavy, but more at the population as a whole: If you consider it to be "fine" to go through life telling yourself misfounded visions of the state of matters, you're admitting that your entire existence is wrought with lying to yourself. Propagating this idea doesn't help, either, but far too many look to others for support, spreading it's use, in order to "confirm the validity" of such a practice. If only we could get more people to examine the facts before "deciding now and forever" the way things are, perhaps we could grow as a society. It's a sign of getting old, truthfully. It's a psychological defense which effectively is made so that the self coaxes the ego by seeking-out confirmation that all the decisions one has made up to this point were correct, invoking a sense of false happiness. Too many people are afraid of evolution, the continuous upkeep of one's understanding in order to better understand the truth. Denial is sick and honestly pathetic to see, as a human being effectively denies his potential in order to make himself happy. It makes me glad to see that this particular community is evolving. Nesonjacc and Brooklyn Red Leg have begun threads which do not necessarily beg for criticism of The Shadow Chronicles, but which display "what is" for all to see and analyse with the full of their brains--ultimately, seeking Truth--and this is a very good thing. --because, as we now can see, the alternative is not pleasant. Yours in the protoculture, Khyron_Prime Praise Haydon! ---------------
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harkavyr |
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Quote:Quoted to exemplify the viewpoint of a fan boy whose obsession with a 90 minute animated feature has brought him to the point where he condemns people who disagree with him as "sick," "pathetic," and (in an ironic twist) suffering from psychological problems. Also note that "misfounded" isn't a real word. (Now I'm done.) |
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Khyron Prime |
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Quote: Hey, you are what you are, man. I'm not saying anything that doesn't connect one's actions with the rest of his self. To use such an excuse as not being the same person all the time would be foolish; when you get yourself into text-based debates and then wuss-out by saying that it's not worth your time, you're probably the kind of guy who can't handle himself in a fistfight, or alternatively, would similarly denounce fistfighting as barbaric when, in the end, it's just as effective a way to settle an arguement as with words. One can't cut-and-run in a word-based fight and expect to not be labeled a coward. But hey, you wanna cover your butt by insulting my diction, then that's fine. Truth be told, I'm an American and the ultimate beauty of the American dialect of English is in it's socially-accepted malleability. I make a damned good living off of using words however I see fit, and until it shows itself to be a problem, I would suppose that the critics are those who view the English language as a textbook study rather than an everyday creation of life as it continually evolves in this world. What do I know, though. I'm just a "fanboy" who cares about Robotech, and unlike some, I'm not foolish enough to think that using the time of my life to read and watch a science fiction series should ever be wasted by the label of "fun" as, in the end, it's something I can learn and grow-from equal to the amount of effort I put in to benefit from it. Oh. Yeah. I just ended my sentence with a preposition. And like the wonderful North American authors William Gibson and Chuck Palahniuk, it I rather enjoyed. Yours in the protoculture, Khyron_Prime Praise Haydon! ---------------
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nesonjacc |
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Well what do you know... Even Chris Meadows( no matter how we all feel about him)... can turn out to be quite helpfull..
Quote: Who else was there...exept Greg Finley?... Well offcourse Tommy Yune( Yunies expected move)........ And the intersting part for us is from minute 86 on.... Quote: Quote: I mean if you expected to sell 2...and you sold 3.. you fit into this kind of answer. But in general terms...SALES aparently SUCK... Oh and this is for those still thinking they will see shadow chronicles sequel soon..... Tommy Quote: This answers another question... the posible sequell production did not go further away from --- WE WANT TO MAKE A SEQUEL----- Thanks Chris..... |
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Khyron Prime |
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Quote: Thanks for the update, Nenad. You just saved me from having to listen through three hours of ~that voice~ in order to find the truly interesting stuff contained in his show. I always seem to get that "Haydon, he has returned to this world!" moment once a show--where all of the bullshit I sat through gives-way to a single moment of interesting information--but oftentimes it's not worth it. But Tommy Yune...man, what can I say. It's like the man was built, bent-over a wooden horse, and injected with a ten-litre syringe filled with bravado. I'd like, for one moment, to ask for everyone's indulgence, here: Philosophically, I'm a lover of Japanese practice. A failure is a failure and a success is a success; if one is skillful enough to paint a good picture of things, then he gives a good mask to the company, and that's a good thing in business. But if someone calls you out, you're at-least willing to give a deft admission of guilt...by remaining silent or some other non-verbal signal which humbly allows for everyone else to understand without you embarassing yourself. Every time that Harmony Gold steps-up to bat, they're about as far from this as possible, and at least for me, it's disgusting to see people who are blatantly adverse to giving the public an opening to try to understand that they're not exactly being truthful. In the end, the doubters of the word of Harmony Gold get dubbed "idiots" and "extremists" because we're trying to perceive something that seems wrong but which is not obvious to everyone else, as if we're making stuff up. By now, we're cautious, even suspicious of anything Harmony Gold says, but people still think we "overreact" to things. Again, if Harmony Gold would just be a bit more open about what is the true state of things, everyone would at least understand where all of this doubfulness comes from. I can't wait to hear what kind of lame-ass excuses all of the dumbassed-fanboys on the other side are gonna start using after months of "it was such a success that they're already making a sequel" bullshit. Yours in the protoculture, Khyron_Prime Praise Haydon! ---------------
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wow. the way you guys are showcasing HG is like they don't know what to do in order to produce an effective product that will bring a new wave of fans.
Have any of you sent your CV's in an attempt to better the company's functionality?
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