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Brooklyn Red Leg	Could someone explain to me how this is an 'attack' post?	Lead	[-]
Commander Posts: 727 (September 20, 2008 01:53 PM) Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Tags : None In regards to the highlighted portion, so should everything that had any iota of appearance on the show be in the RPG? You want a book 500+pages? Since you decided to strawman my questions instead of taking them seriously, I'll refrain from answering until such time as you decide to actually not engage in fallacious debating. I would have thought my question honestly deserved an answer instead of derision. Such was my reply to Deific NMI's asinine 'should everything that had an iota of appearance' bullsh#t assertion. All I had asked was why the YVF-4 and VF 'Orguss' armour would not be appearing in the RPG. After all, the rules are supposed to be a toolset of GMs to use as they see fit in their games. How they run their games at home is not subject to 'canon' debates and the like. This is especially true if you look at Tommy Yune's ridiculous TO&E for the REF as expressed in the new RPGs: only VF-1Rs for Veritechs with few VFA-6 Alpha's until 2031 (no Logans or Spartas Hovertanks either 'since those are ASC mecha'). That means the REF has no Strike Capability vis-a-vis Orbit-to-Ground operations (VF-4 "Fury's" and VA-5 Condor's both being able to load internal munitions) since the non-transformable fighters like the SF-4 Liberte, SFA-5 Bat and SF-6F Vulture all have external hardpoints (though the Vulture does look like it might have a centerline fuselage weapon's bay). Since the VF-1R is apparently the main Veritech until 2031, that roundly blows Tommy's claim out of the water that the VF-4 wasn't included 'due to rights issues'. Let Harmony Gold and its licensees know that you want Robotech Masters Merchandise! Sign the petition and help us! Masters War Merchandise Petition
FPilot		#1	[-]
Admiral Posts: 1428 (September 20, 2008 04:50 PM) Arcadia Squadron Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I checked in at RT.Com and realized that I hadn't been there more than a year. I'm only still a Private there. I've probably only been to RT.com a dozen times. sigh The Orguss armor is not only insignificant (all three times one has appeared on screen it's been blown away by return fire!) but legally dicey. Are you pro or con on this issue, Brook? Stephen "FPilot" Bierce Pilot's Log: http://frustratedpilot.livejournal.com
FPilot		#2	[-]
Admiral Posts: 1429 (September 20, 2008 05:04 PM) Arcadia Squadron Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Further thought...what if ImaginAsian and the current English-language rightsholder for Orguss 02 got together with Palladium for an Orguss Universes module for RIFTS/Robotech RPG? Birds, meet stone. Stephen "FPilot" Bierce Pilot's Log: http://frustratedpilot.livejournal.com
Brooklyn Red Leg		#3	[-]
Commander Posts: 728 (September 20, 2008 06:14 PM) Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	FPilot wrote: The Orguss armor is not only insignificant (all three times one has appeared on screen it's been blown away by return fire!) but legally dicey. Are you pro or con on this issue, Brook? I'm in favour of it because it adds yet one more piece of equipment to the arsenal. And besides, its not really an Orguss so much as a VF-1A in partial Orguss Armour. I wouldn't think it would be legally undoable since this is a merchandising piece instead of an animated piece. It also appears in the animation which Tatsunoko and HG own. Now, let me clarify that I am talking about the add-on armor from the Tv series, not the FAST-Pack version from Macross Perfect Memory, as the latter clearly transforms while the former (I think) is basically akin to the Grenade Box Protector series, but adds a big-arsed beam cannon instead of lots of SRMs. Let Harmony Gold and its licensees know that you want Robotech Masters Merchandise! Sign the petition and help us! Masters War Merchandise Petition
CavScout		#4	[-]
Captain Posts: 1336 (September 21, 2008 07:18 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Don't you think it's ironic to complain about the very forum "rules" (at Palladium) that you've used to insulate yourself from criticism to be complaining now that the "rules" are used against you? Sometimes when you help create the monster, it will turn around and eat you. CavScout "The role of the Cavalry is to add colour, dash and daring, to what would otherwise be a mindless shitfight amongst grunts."-Australian Army saying This is my "mod-voice". If I post in red, it usually means knock whatever it is off!
Brooklyn Red Leg		#5	[-]
Commander Posts: 729 (September 21, 2008 08:38 AM) Commander Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	CavScout wrote: Don't you think it's ironic to complain about the very forum "rules" (at Palladium) that you've used to insulate yourself from criticism to be complaining now that the "rules" are used against you? Sometimes when you help create the monster, it will turn around and eat you. Considering how many times Ive been banned, I fail to see how I helped to 'create the monster'. YOU were not on the forums years ago when it was significantly worse and I had to put up with all kinds of crap from people who all happen to be friends of Deific NMI and the other mod staff. Edit: BTW, care to provide any evidence where I helped to 'create the monster' or are you yet again accusing me of something that I had nothing to do with? Much as how you accused me of being Col_Wolfe because we happen to have the same IP addy. Never mind that he is one of my roommates and anyone reading his posts can see the radical difference in grammar/style. Let Harmony Gold and its licensees know that you want Robotech Masters Merchandise! Sign the petition and help us! Masters War Merchandise Petition
Jefffar		#6	[-]
1st Lieutenant Posts: 240 (September 21, 2008 11:44 AM) 2nd Lieutenant Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	BRL, you and I have been online at Palladium on and off for the last 10 or more years. In that time we've been in more than a few debates - sometimes on the same side, sometimes opposing. I hope you will take what I'm going to say next in the spirit it is beign offered in. I mean no offense or disrespect to you and much of what I am saying is meant to head off a possible lifetime ban for someone who I think has brought a lot of useful resources and insight to the game that I care about so much. Your posting style often comes off as arrogant, condescending and hostile. You portray your self as the only one who is right and don't often accept the validity of others arguments. Your replies to those who disagree with you often border on calling the alternative point of view (and therefor it's holders) as either unintellegent or asinine. You also seem to have decided there is some sort of organized anti-Southern Cross movement on the boards and treat anything that hints that any other part of the series as superior as if it was an attack. The Robotech forums are generally a fairly friendly place. In fact, the only heated threads I cna think of that needed to be shut down in that forum had you as one of the beliggerants. I think you need to step back, take a deep breath and look at the way you approach these things. I think you need to find ways to express your points in ways that don't make the other guy feel like he has to defend himself. I think you need to find when and where to agree to disagree and leave it alone. I think if you don't do that you will find ourself banned for good next time. You are a smart guy and one of the best experts on Robotech out there, and I'm sure you can see that you have actually had an influence on the development of the current editions of the RPG. It would be a shame to toss that all away right now. So think about what I said and find a way to continue to be a part of the community there isntead of getting yourself isolted from it.

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